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    Originally posted by gymmy:
    Being a sci-fi fan I personally enjoy the theme, but I don't think L Ron is the best writer of the genre.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Holy understatement, Batman.

    Anyone in any doubt about the ... uh, "quality" of Elron's writing, should read the first chapter online here. I mean, puh-leeease.

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 23, 2004 09:02 AM: Message edited by: moosetication ]</font>

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    read the first chapter online here
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ugh.
    Good Lawd. Ditto, moose. Somebody get me outta here...

    Soap opera for sci-fi geeks type of writing...or, softcore-porn [as in, that's how they write - on a cheesy, pedestrian, infantile, 'romantically' momentary, appeal-to-emotional level]
    [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thinking.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img]
    Stanley Clarke, who committed the ultimate crime of leaving the Hubbardistas
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Can this be true?! Grown men acting like this?! Please tell me grown men [& women] don't take this sort of stuff seriously...Uh, wait - I don't know why I asked that...just turn on the daily news to see that there is plenty of craziness out there...as long as they keep that sh** to themselves, & don't hurt anyone...?! [:c/

    AFA creativity coming from this sort of thing, that's bogus. Human beings are creative w/out having anything to do w this sort of drivel / pseudo-religion...yes, one does draw from experiance, which can fuel creativity, but as moose said [& so eloquently, I might add], "puh-leeeeezzzze"... Hubba-Bubba-Babble...get over yourselves & "get a grip"..."no mo'ron hub, puh-leeease"...

    Have you ever noticed how genius often comes with some other strange & whacked out aberration, inversely proportional to & also to the greatest degree as is the area of genius?

    "Genius comes with a price..." ;c/

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 23, 2004 11:19 AM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

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    Not to turn this into a total scientology post, but, I think much of scientology is largely pseudo-psychology / psychosematic, & then the rest, purely & simply psycho...but given the magazine itself & the motives[?] behind Jr, I don't know what to believe...but it's pretty obvious that it's quite simply a "majorly screwed-up" situation...

    That intrvw was in June 1983...interesting & bizarre
    Because of the seriousness of [Hub Jr's] charges and because his father has
    affected the lives of thousands, if not millions, of people, Penthouse will be
    launching an independent investigation of these charges. The results will be
    published in a forthcoming issue
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Anyone know anything about that?

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    I think the CD is really cool, a little bit of everything on there, and I couldn't give a rip about "L. Ron Hoover" either... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    I like the latin, the Weather Report nod, and of course, "Frank Gambale on the 'Geetahhh'" (as Chick would call it). It blows that last smooth jazz Elektric Band CD out of the water IMO.

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    Hello All -
    Here's the link for the L. Ron Jr. interview that Beat Hit referred to. Sorry you have to copy it and put it in your destination line! Someday? ah who am I kidding!?

    http://www.rickross.com/reference/sc.../scien240.html

    Very interesting stuff, if even a little is true.

    Take Care All. F.S.

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    I got it. Starts with a bang and slowly fizzles the rest of the way. I also bought Inside Out at the same time. I think Inside Out has all what a CCEB/Weck fan wants. That album rules.
    I will be giving To the Stars some more chances to rise above Inside Out, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
    5.5 of 10

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    ...and I couldn't give a rip about...
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">True, true.
    Playing-wise, the CCEBs/CCABs will always rule...

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 24, 2004 02:02 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

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    "Beat Hit- How deep is Chick into Scientology?
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How deep? Well... #1 Most (if not all) of Chick's records aknowledges Hubbdard as a major inspiration. Not only that, lots of Hubbard's quotes can also be found written on his records. #2 "To The Stars" is THE most scientologist project Corea ever produced. And now we also know that Hubbard's book is being sold at every (unless I am mistaken) CCEB concerts (Steve mentionned it, a friend also witnessed it at the Montreal Jazz Fest). I am reading between the lines and I conlude that Chick is VERY much involved. And he has all the rights to do so too, I am merely stating what I reason to be a fact.

    "Very interesting stuff, if even a little is true."
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">True, true... I am sure not all that Hubbard Jr. said is true. But then again at the end of the interview, what he said about his father didn't sound like he told the story to get back at him, on the contrary he ended on a positive note, wished him well almost. Remember that Hubbard Jr. was in hidding, even changed his identity for a while. Why do you think? He was supposed to become the next #1... He knew too much. Go to jonthibault's link and the picture gets clearer and clearer. It's not like Hubbard Jr. was the only ex-scientologist in hidding. Any organisation that does not let you leave PEACEFULLY out of your own free will is one you must be on your guards with. That alone is a major warning sign.

    "Not to turn this into a total scientology post"
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know bro... It's just that this specific project is soooo into it, nothing wrong for us to get into talking about a Theme upon which a CD is founded. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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    I conclude this topic with this... [img]eek.gif[/img] That's serious stuff folks...

    http://www.razormagazine.com/feature1203a.php

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    Is it just me or...is it evident that many proponents of this seemed cult are already [& have long been] hugely successful, wealthy, & 'famous' / 'in the limelight'...such as CEOs / business people, Hollyweird actors/actresses, & very successful music artists? [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thinking.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img]

    Don't get me wrong, CC has always / long been one of my FAVE musicians evar...phenom pnist...but that quote of mine earlier, "Have you ever noticed how genius often comes with some other strange & whacked out aberration, inversely proportional to & also to the greatest degree as is the area of genius?"...this cultish phenom is as bizarre as the pno playing is good...

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 25, 2004 02:08 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

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